My PhilHosting Horror Story

Jan 13 2009

When I started this blog in May of 2008, I entrusted PhilHosting with my site in my foray into the world of self-hosted blogging. I foolishly chose their service because of their affordable rates, neglecting to research customer satisfaction online.

That, in retrospect, was the first mistake I made as a self-hosted blogger. Over the holidays, without prior notice, PhilHosting apparently restored their mySQL databases from ancient backups. That resulted to the loss of all the precious blog posts I had written after December 4, and a whole lot of annoyance and agony.

What’s more, soon after that, a bigger problem followed: the blog became inaccessible from my home Internet connection, making it impossible for me to mitigate the situation. This wasn’t my fault, I was sure, because I couldn’t even publish a post explaining why several of my blog posts had suddenly disappeared.

My first instinct, of course, was to contact their technical support service in the hope that they could at least give me back access to my blog. Well, turns out, these guys like to vacation, too. They announced this on their homepage:

12/23/2008: Philhosting is close on Christmas Holidays. All account and technical inquires/request will be process on January 5, 2009 when regular office day is resume. Thank you and Happy Holidays!

That’s an exact quote, copy-pasted from their homepage (in the bottom-left of the page, under the ‘News & Updates’ heading). Yes, their grammar was bad, albeit not half as stinky as their service.

So I had no choice but to wait for these guys to return from their hiatus before I could open a trouble ticket, which would then take days for them to process thanks to their snail-slow reaction time. With that in mind, I found it a fruitless effort to send a strongly-worded email to them (plus, it would corrode the spirit of the holidays I assumed), so I waited until January 7 to seek assistance from them (just to give them time to transition from vacation mode to help-my-client-with-his-site-problem mode).

They responded about 24 hours later, asking me to “please visit your site no [sic]” and advising me to provide them my cPanel login data so they could “check your back up if disabled”. I’d regained access to the site by this time, by the way. Okay, I thought, and obliged with their request for my login credentials.

I assumed they wanted my login info so they could go into the more technical corners of my cPanel to untick a checkbox that said “disable backup”. Instead, they followed up one day later saying that admin had actually “temporarily disabled the bak up [sic]“.  They said that I had to request them to provide me a link with which I could download a full backup of my site. Sounds like a complete reversal of roles, with me having to request something from them, yes? Plus, couldn’t they just have provided me a link to the backup then and there instead of making me beg for it first? What, does their internal bureaucracy prevent them from assisting their customers?

Still, I decided that remaining calm and polite was still the best way to go. On January 9,  I opened up a separate trouble ticket requesting for a full backup of my website. I have yet to hear from them. Big surprise.

Sick and fed up with PhailHosting, I decided to go ahead and purchase webspace from Page.Ph, another reputable Pinoy webhost. This blog is now hosted on my Page.Ph virtual server, and while it took them quite some time to process my account, everything’s been going smoothly so far. I hope Page is a better webhost than PhailHosting.

If you Google around, you’ll notice that I’m not the only unsatisfied PhailHosting customer out there. Here’s a short rant from two years ago at Fubar Genre (with what looks like a planted commenter making an appearance). Three days into the New Year, Aaron Roselo posted a rant about PhailHosting, as well. Ed Arevalo plurked his frustration with PhailHosting recently, too. Technogra.ph covered the story, and another rare satisfied PhilHosting customer praised the host in the comments section. (Ironically, I tried to visit said satisfied customer’s website and wasn’t able to access it, LOL.) There’s more where that came from, and hopefully a lot less to come.

So that’s it, my own PhilHosting horror story. *shivers in fear*

UPDATE 1/14

I’m assuming someone over at PhailHosting read this rant, because at noon today I received this message in my inbox. It was a reply to one of my trouble tickets.

You have already stated that you friends can access it.

http://webhosting.info/webhosts/tophosts/country/ph?pi=1&ob=RANK&oo=ASC

If you click through the link, you’ll be taken to a page with a nifty bar graph that ranks PhailHosting as the number one webhost in the country by market share and total domains. I was amused. Obviously, it was their snarky, prideful way of saying “you’re wrong.” Uhm, you might have the biggest market share, but based on my experience, that doesn’t necessarily mean that you give all your clients the best service you can offer. (Sure, you might be accomodating to the big companies that host their sites on your servers, but you leave the little guys out in the cold. Way to go.)

And in response to their nonchalant “You have already stated that you friends can access it”, that’s true—my friends could access it. But I couldn’t. I checked my antivirus and firewall programs, and my website wasn’t blocked on any of them. I’d also been able to access my site for brief periods of time (and when I say brief, I mean three minutes brief). That means it’s most probably a problem on your end. Your unwillingness to fix it or even to give me suggestions on what to do to fix the problem just indicates the crappiness of the service you offer.

PhilHosting. Hosting fail. Customer service and satisfaction fail.

49 responses so far

  1. I also had a bad experience with them I did not even enjoyed the website I supposed to have with them. We should ban that webhost hehehehehehe.

  2. wow…what a nightmare! …next time try to find a webhost that provide 24X7 services.

    i "almost" had the same experience like you except that the building where my webhost is located got burned down, it's good thing that i have a backup, and after they restore my account in their new server, they gave me twice the amount of web space that i was using

  3. Actually, in the process of writing this post I realized such a plugin did exist and hurriedly downloaded it. Now it sends a backup of database to my email every week. Thanks for the comment. ;)

  4. LOL. If only we had the power to do so… hehe.

  5. Well, at least that webhost of yours knows how to make it up to the customer. :)

  6. I see. Good for you. :)

    But your host really did do a bad job at almost every imaginable side of hosting (e.g. replacing databases with old backups, no 24/7 support).

    Hope you won't encounter anything disastrous again!

  7. that's bad…but when i search philhosting…i get this…

    http://webhosting.info/webhosts/tophosts/country/...

    why they are no. 1? or you must host your blog to US and pay $

  8. Dreamhost is doing great with me :)

  9. Yes, I hear the rates there are good, too. *sigh* if only I had a credit card. LOL.

  10. should i be blogg'n my hosting services also? hehehe.. not this time.. patience!

  11. Aside from choosing a reputable host, it also pays to back up your files often. Make a schedule if you have to. At least if the server conks out, you still have your database with you. There's a WP plugin that can send you scheduled back ups. It's called WordPress Database Backup. Try it if you haven't done it yet.

    I hope that helps. :)

  12. I just moved away two of my sites from Philhosting. I'm with BigBytes now. It's faster, and I can host unlimited domains in one account. Philhosting used to be good, but now.. I don't know what happened to them.

  13. Welcome to the club. I'm one of the early clients of philhosting, way back when it was still a struggling company in the Visayas. Back then, the service was very good and the rate is manageable. The owner is the one managing and providing support services and he even provided me with his cp no. and private email address. Now it's one of the biggest hosting company in the country, has moved to Makati a few years ago and probably has the baddest technical support in the world. I experienced all kinds of problems with this company – billing problems (a few times i had renewed my hosting and domain plan ahead of schedule and still my site expires, unaccounted payments), frequent downtime, late technical support responses, and unannounced upgrades or migration. Just last month, they moved their SQL server in another location and they only announced it in their website which i rarely visit. So my blog lost its databases for a week and i thought my 5 year-old blog was gone for good. Turns out I had to do some script tweaking to reunite my blog with the lost database.

    I think my 5 year relationship with philhosting will end this year.

  14. Exactly! Then why they are still in Number 1? That's the question….and by the way….i'm not from philhosting….just one of the sister company……you can express what you want…and we can also share ours….and BTW, many of bloggers hosted in philhosting.net become popular by writing negative reviews from them….. go! go! go!

  15. If you're trying to imply that I'm writing this negative review because I want to be popular, then you're wrong. I'm happy in my little corner of cyberspace, no matter how relatively small my pageview counts are. I wrote this to forewarn other people who might be thinking of hosting with PhilHosting. I don't want them to have to deal with the problems I did.

  16. Yes, I was affected by the SQL server migration, too. *apir*

    I hope you find a better webhost, dude. :)

  17. why are they no. 1?

    Your guess is as good as mine.

  18. Exactly again! That's always they reason(writing negative issues to be popular?).That's why still more of the bloggers are getting popular by this. That's why they thank you…. Admin people always instruct us – "Wag nyo ng patulan yan….sila lang naman yung nagrerekalmo e….yung mga nagbabayad ng libo-libo sa'tin buwan-buwan di naman nagrereklamo e mga corporation pa naman….". He he he…..feel free to express…you're very welcome…cheers!

  19. I already left philhosting a year ago because of sever downtimes and unsupportive "support" staff.

  20. Yun na nga– quote, unquote, "support". LOL.

  21. Hi! Disgruntled Philhosting customer here too. In fairness though, they restored my lost posts yesterday. Still, super stress and dinulot nila! Was the move to the new host smooth lang? Mabilis lang po ba? :)

  22. It took Page.Ph about one day to get my account ready, but aside from that it's been pretty smooth naman. I had a fresh install of WordPress using Fantastico then I used the import/export utility, so 'yun. They've been pretty okay naman so far. :)

  23. @dean, same experience here! My mistake was that I didn't google comments about their service so I got suckered into getting a hosting plan from them.

    @Hades: you've just divulged how people in your sister company treat their clients.

    The problem is that they [Philhosting employees] are aware of the many customer complaints blogged in the internet, but they are still doing nothing to improve their services.

    Just checked out my website and it is still down today. Checked out the corporate website of Mang Inasal (which I saw from the philhosting.net website as one of their corporate clients) and it' up and running. So ofcourse the big companies don't complain because their website is always up and running while the blog sites/websites of the small unlucky non-corporate subscribers are always down.

    Just try to google the phrase "philhosting.net sucks" and the results alone confirms it.

  24. They also gave me that e-mail requesting my login and password for the cpanel. I ddin't give it to them because it sounds fishy. They could access it anyway they want since it's their server so why? And that's the story on how I can still backup from cpanel. However that won't stop me from moving to new hosts this week.

  25. our site's been frequently down in the past few weeks (or months) we're definitely transferring to philwebservices, too bad they don't have add on domains but their customer service is good (as of now hehe)

    probably the "best" conversation I had with philhosting.net's phone support:

    me: tanong ko lang po kung bakit po down and site namin nang madalas?
    secretary: (in a semi-palengkera tone) UP NAMAN E!

    HUH?! very professional..

  26. Oh, man. Happy to hear you’re contented with your new webhost. Hope they’re nothing like PhailHosting. :)

  27. Wow. Just wow.

    Glad you decided to move to another webhost. Hope they're nothing like PhailHosting. :)

  28. [...] Complain about their bad service (as a lot of people have done online), and they send you a link showing that they’re number one in market share. Huh? Full details over at Deantastic. [...]

  29. I myself was a victim of this company, I was duped by this company last year when I decided to transfer my domain registration with them from another domain registrar based in US. Please see the link below regarding my rant on this company.

    http://www.normandb.com/2009/03/unreliable-philho...

    They didn't even say or feel sorry for their mistake and they don't even have the courtesy to inform their clients on a timely manner that the service we requested from them was unsuccessful, I felt being duped, ripped off or scammed.

  30. As IT professionals, let's put our clients first and above all, always treat them in a professional way. Please read this related story from a blogger http://gogirlcafe.jennyo.net/?p=907

  31. Philhosting Reviews

    Dont ever subscribe to Philhosting.net you will regret it.

    They have more down time than up times.
    They accedentaly deleted my database and my project got backtracked for 2 months because they dont have backups. If you want your site to have backup they will ask you to upgrade your account to a better one with backup eventhou tis standard to have backups if your a hosting company.
    Worst techsupport, doesnot answer email sent more than 4 emails when my site was down no one answers back, it will take them more than 3days to 1 week to answer.

    Phone support sucks also.. Philhost keeps their phone on hang everytime they have server problems so that they wont have to answer clients calls. Ive experienced this more than 5 time in less than 6 months.

    Philhost sucks … bigtime dont ever trust this hostin company.

  32. HOY OWNER OF PHILHOSTING PINAGYAYABANG MO NA NAGSESEND KAYO NG TICKET MAYBAYAD PAGDATING SA AMERICA SA INYO LIBRE, ANO NAGAGAWA NYAN E DONW AND WEBSITE NA PINA HOST SA INYO PALAGI KAININ MO NALANG TICKET MO.WE DONT NEED TICKET WE NEED OUR SITE VIEWABLE ONLINE 24/7. PANGIT NG PALUSOT MO.

  33. i'm moving out of philhosting soon. my blog is always down with them. mahaba lang ang pasensya ko but i've had enough.

  34. same experience! limang hosting account ni open ko sa kanila since 2005…lahat bad experienced talaga!ubos na pasinya ko…lalo na ngayon nag renew ako sa last account ko…after one week wla pa akong access!nag email pa sa akin nang Invoice Payment confirmation..e ni follow up ko wlang reply!pag mag reply lagi nalang wait for another day!dapat mo pa e double email para mag reply!!!ngayon nag pa refund nalng ako…e ni terminate yung account ko for unmannered and unpolite request daw!iwan ko lang kung mag refund pa kaya tong mga Philhostinks.net sa akin!saan ba tayo pwdi mag complain na ganitong problema sa hosting company???

    Philhosting.net customer service unprofessional!
    Philhosting.net technical support unprofessional!
    Philhosting.net billing department lang ang active!!!sira mga

    Dapat sa hindi ito Philhosting.net, ang bagay na pangalan sa nyo ay Philhostinks.net!!!!!!

  35. Sa NBI, i saw this site and you can actually post your complaints, http://www.bangonpinoy.org/index.php/Report-A-Cri...
    It's tantamount to robbery ang ginagawa nila. Para malagay sa wanted yung may ari. I heard Ruel Mindoro daw ang pangalan ng may-ari para matigil na yung mga pambibikitma nila. I also heard from a blogger that she is actually gathering more evidences and a class suit againts the owner. Sabi nya may time nalang na dadamputin si owner na ito ng NBI agents.

  36. Yes, Ruel Mindoro is the owner of PhilHosting. Says so on his LinkedIn page – http://www.linkedin.com/pub/dir/ruel/mindoro. With the way they treat their customers, I'm surprised the government doesn't have them on their radar yet. (Or not, with the way government works in this country.)

  37. Log your complaintsw here so that Philhostings license will be revoke. If we all complain at the same time im sure Internic will do some action. You must be a domian name owner thou and must input your real email so they can verify.

    http://reports.internic.net/cgi/registrars/proble...

    We can do this samasam tayo.. Lets and Philhostings scam…

  38. Oh my God! I have very similar experience with the blogger! Same date of domain purchase and similar cases has happened to me. And of course same experience as anybody else. I truly believe without any bias, their services needs to be reported to the authority. It's an online robbery if you take into a higher perspective. I agree we should come one and complain together.

  39. Hello everyone,

    This is a good news for those customers of registrar OnlineNIC/ Philhosting.net who had problems with previous transfer requests should now be able to transfer their domains to a different registrar if they wish. Please see this article on ICANN (there is already a court ruling dated May 15, 2009) Please see the link below

    http://icann.org/en/announcements/announcement-15...

    Hostingphil.com Team
    http://www.hostingphil.com
    NOTE: WE ARE NOT IN ANY WAY CONNECTED WITH PHILHOSTING.NET

  40. Hello everyone,

    This is a good news for those customers of registrar OnlineNIC/ Philhosting.net
    who had problems with previous transfer requests should now be able to transfer
    their domains to a different registrar if they wish. Please see this article on
    ICANN (there is already a court ruling dated May 15, 2009) Please see the link
    below

    http://icann.org/en/announcements/announcement-15...

    Hostingphil.com Team
    http://www.hostingphil.com
    NOTE: WE ARE NOT IN ANY WAY CONNECTED WITH PHILHOSTING.NET

  41. I have the same experince with you guys, and worst i bought their zero down time architecture plan… grrr worth P1,100. And now that we have reached 10k/day unique visitors they said we have violated their TOS, that when a site is consuming more resources on the server (2% CPU / site) they will suspend your site. But the problem is, It was stated also in the TOS that the admin will notify the site owner first and let him fixed the problem within 48 hours. Shhh asa pa na mag-email sila, kung upgrade nga last december hinde sila nagnotify nagchange pla ng SQL server eto pang resource.. OUR Site currently Suspended!!! grrrrr anu ba maganda hosting company? charge to experience ko na lang ito, for not later ko na post yung domain namin baka mamonitor ako delete yung content ko wala p kme back-up na latest…. philhosting.net = Bull.S. !!!!

  42. Wow. Sorry to hear about your experience. My current hosting provider is Page.Ph and so far I've been quite satisfied with their service. A big-name hosting company like Hostgator or Bluehost might be more suitable for a site like yours, however.

    Good luck!

  43. I'm having problems with my hosting as well good thing I searched google first..

    So what you guys recommend? Im looking for decent host atleast here in asia.

  44. I transfered my domain to GoDaddy.
    I Bought my own vps and dedicated servers now.

    Goodbye Philhosting! You suck Bigtime! I hope you get bankrupt soon!

  45. I tried Philhosting about a year ago but I’m still pissed to this day… This very minute their own site is down. Hopefully for good, if there is still some justice left.

    They call themselves “The Philippines’s No. 1. Web/E-mail Provider.” That’s supposed to be a joke right? They’re probably one of the worst web hosts in the world… severe downtimes, slow servers, moronic tech support, rude responses, poor management. Their only plus is that they’re cheap. But then, just get a free ad-supported web space, and you’re still better off than their crappy service.

    So to all you people who are considering transferring to Philhosting… STAY AWAY!!!!

  46. hi guys! victim din ako ng philhosting. grabe ang service nila! ang bagal. ahead of time nagbayad n ako ng renewal ng domain name sa kanila. so until nagexpired inprogress pa rin. dapat dyan sa philhosting tanggalan ng business permit. besides yung mga contact numbers nila nakaindicate sa website nila ang hirap makacontact. grabe talaga mga taga philhosting mga scammers

    http://cyberscammer.blogspot.com/

  47. If you guys are looking for GOOD customer service then go to http://www.philwebservices.com. Although they are not 24/7, but they are 24/5. at least.

    been with them for 2 months now and they are great, dont have any problems with them.

    ciao

  48. http://www.facebook.com/pages/Makati-Philippines/PhilHosting-FailHosting/330149592048?ref=ts

  49. [...] I am not the only victim of this awful company. This is a screenshot of a post by Dean Lozarie. [...]

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